On episode 6 of ReFi Podcast we chat with @rebecca_mqamelo from Zerion. She shares her deep knowledge and research findings on community backed currencies, diversity, inclusion, and the gift: the economy of reciprocation.
Some of the topics we jump into:
00:00 Intro
02:37 About Rebecca
05:09 Rebecca – “I really care about understanding where one comes from, this is tied to my identity..”
06:09 Rebecca – “i’m really passionate about my continent and what it means to be global and African..”
09:13 What are the choices we are making now for future generations?
10:25 Rebecca – “What does a world look like where everything is tokenized?..
11:39 Rebecca – “Our sense of value is influenced by this noise…empathize value through carbon credits etc..”
15:19 The background, value and importance of Zerion
17:12 Rebecca -“Zerion was the first DeFi aggregator to integrate Uniswap… Now it’s a portal to all decentralized finance..”
18:39 Rebecca – “Whether you are a first time investor or a degen of five years it gives you clarity across different wallets..”
19:29 Rebecca – “We went from tokens, to NFTs, now we’re indexing wallets..”
20:55 What have you learned from your experiences working in different communities and projects?
24:18 Rebecca – “In all the research I’ve done…The biggest thing is whatever token you are building there need to be an on the ground element..”
26:03 What happens when there isn’t an on the ground component?
33:32 Local currencies being reflective of their culture
34:33 Rebecca – “In the past our identity was defined by our physical surroundings.. now those physical barriers are gone..now tokens are being tied to identity..”
37:58 How do we think about money as a language?
43.25 Diversity and representation within the crypto community
44:56 Rebecca – “People underestimate how the narrative is still malleable…but we focus too much on the financial side its alienated people..branding problem..”
46:24 Rebecca – “If you want people to use a currency make sure the builders are representing the people you are going after..”
49:03 What roles do investors play in all this?
51:02 Rebecca – “If everybody did have a wallet, what would the needs be?…”(Changing available opportunities, onboarding etc)
54:03 What role do indigenous land stewards play in healing the Earth and creating communities of care?
55:10 – Rebecca – “There is a reality that climate change is happening..and there are people who have taken up the challenge of protecting whats there..”
57:36 How do we collectively make sense of what matters?
01:01:13 Rebecca – “A $10 bill doesn’t tell you how it got to you..Crypto gives us the ability to do that..”
01:05:14 Gift relationships and the realization of inter-dependance
01:05:58 Rebecca – “Gifting is at the core of all human relationships…”
01:11:07 What can people do to help you or Web3 movement/ReFi?
